Kerry did not just F@%k ing call me his "kid"

Published on October 8, 2004 By Spc Nobody Special In Politics

ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! at the end of the debate kerry calls the soldiers in Iraq "the kids"?????????? He says the kids in their HMWVS are suffering????? The kids this? The kids that? Didn't he read my article???Link
And when is he going to stop saying he has a plan and tell us what it is damn it!!!

I, and the soldiers I work with are not Kerry's damned kids. Boo on Kerry.

Comments (Page 3)

Spc Nobody Special

on Oct 08, 2004

They use "Kid" as we all know to pull the compassion towards them

No troll, but for me, "kid" is about as compassionate as some of the NCOs back at training schools, that would refer to the privates as "popups."(like targets at the range)

mgosh

on Oct 08, 2004

Calling American Solders whom are risking their lives for the freedom of Iraq, and belittling them is horrible.

Kerry was trying his best to spin it that the U.S. solder doesn't know what he/she is doing.

While Bush used the kid reference when he was trying to bolster the moral of the troops.

Tell me who is being the bad one there?

Gives CamMeg some wood.

russellmz2

on Oct 08, 2004

Good thing I hit the quote button early on...

yup. i posted the pills comment, then thought it was over the top, so i removed it.

Maybe you think I'm a kid that needs your help to read a quote?

not you personally, i'm sure you're quite mature and intelligent. but there were a few instances where i posted a quote or link to a source only to have some not so observant person write, "i don't see it" or if they're really bad, accuse me with "you're LYING, it isn't there". a few times i had to tell the person to hit ctrl-f to find it, or post a screenshot with the text underlined. the bolding/enlarging is for those types. of course, now i have to go back to normal text since now i have to deal with the "doesn't like it when text is enlarged" group...

superflourous bush "kids" quotes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A11485-2003Aug18?language=printer

Bush added: "It's a different kind of combat mission, but, nevertheless, it's combat, just ask the kids that are over there killing and being shot at."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/27/sprj.irq.bush.why/

"But this place truly erupted. And I could see the first look of amazement and then look of appreciation on the kids' face," Bush said.

Grim Xiozan

on Oct 08, 2004

No troll, but for me, "kid" is about as compassionate as some of the NCOs back at training schools, that would refer to the privates as "popups."(like targets at the range)

Well yeah that was what my Dad referred to Infantry as "Popup Targets", when you think about it, what is a 3-5 second rush and other battlefield moves look like when you are on the opposite end?
Popup Targets on the range is what they look like. Though you can call the Field Artillery 'Breech Creatures' if it makes you feel better!

Though if you really looked at who they were referring as 'popups' usually the private not getting down in the 3-5 second time limit or something like that.

- GX

CamMeg

on Oct 08, 2004

No I agree geez People calm down I am saying exactly what you are !!!!! I apologize for the way you took it. I am for Bush all the way I want the Wood I LoVed Bush jumping back with this humorous comment~!~

SSG Geezer

on Oct 08, 2004

Now just because I am a geezer who works with a large number of young soldiers, i have been known to abuse other NCO's who call the junior soldiers "Kids".
I joke about being old enough to be their father but I don't call them kids. I missed it building a new computer. Much more productive since I know who's getting my vote.

drmiler

on Oct 08, 2004

Reply #19 By: sandy2 - 10/8/2004 10:43:55 PM
Take Sandy with a grain of salt. Today Sandy mentioned that Bush was the most unpopular President in history, too. She gets caught up in the moment...

I admited a mistake, something I praised Drmiller for doing when he/she did that. I see now that it is best to lie.

Just an FYI Sandy, "he"

Spc Nobody Special

on Oct 09, 2004

Though if you really looked at who they were referring as 'popups' usually the private not getting down in the 3-5 second time limit or something like that.

At a language school? Very little tactical movement taking place, (unless you count avoiding drill sgts and officers.) Sure, if by not getting down, you mean out of their sightline. They used it more to mean, they pop up, now whatever they want, shoot em down.

Surf Control

on Oct 09, 2004

It may be that Kerry described the soldiers as kids, because from the perspective of his age and given the life experience he has attained in the intervening years that he considers that time as distant as his own childhood. From the perspective of a man his age, those between the years of say 18-22, are kids. YES, at that age you are legally allowed to drink, gamble and fight wars and are adults, but from the eyes of a man that is a generation older it is easy enough to see how he may have chosen that description.

The phrase "college kids" has certainly been tossed around enough in popular culture, and it is more of a way that a person looks back upon their youth at an early stage of life experience, than it is to imply their need of protection. This is not to say that it was a poorly chosen phrase, as it certainly was. It is also true that a soldier in a war gains experiences at a much more accelerated rate than those who have not been subjected to such intense conditions. However, I would not be surprised if many of you soldiers and others of that age will look back at this time of your life and realize how much you had learned and grown in the intervening years. I also would not be surprised to hear any of you, as you progress in years not to look at people in their late teens and early twenties and refer to them as kids.

Granted, the political arena is not the place to throw about words in which all implications have not been carefully considered, especially those that can be construed with less than optimal perceptual value.

Words are the currency of politics, and regardless of the intent or the intended audience, those that are poorly chosen are likely to affect the voting public.

WtheDisme

on Oct 09, 2004

I find it funny that a bunch of Republican's out there are quibbling over the word "kids" as to referring to troops and such..here I thought Republicans in general deride Democrats for being "politically correct" about things...guess when a Democrat does it it's different though, right?

pseudosoldier

on Oct 09, 2004

Reply #38 By: Spc Nobody Special - 10/9/2004 8:35:44 AM
Though if you really looked at who they were referring as 'popups' usually the private not getting down in the 3-5 second time limit or something like that.

At a language school? Very little tactical movement taking place, (unless you count avoiding drill sgts and officers.)

The only tactical movement I experienced at DLI involved:
A) getting up the hill from the club,

getting into female barracks, or
C) the LTX (which was all of one day out of the 64 weeks I spent there).

Draginol

on Oct 09, 2004

Oogie31 - you in the military? I suspect not. Otherwise you wouldn't have read it as you did. What I saw wasn't a "bunch of Republicans quibbling" but a bunch of SOLDIERS objecting to being called "kids".

chiprj

on Oct 09, 2004

Well, I stepped away early last night. I was very annoyed by the kids statement, the attempts to spin it, claims that Bush did it too so it was OK, and people figuring that I must a republican supporter just because I announced my annoyance at all this. My political affiliation has nothing to do with my views of how American troops should be called... but moving on...

I didn't hand out any trollings last night... I too was trying to add humor... but, that was probably not a good way to do it... sorry if there was any anxiety over my remarks...

It comes down to this. Neither candidate should be using the term kids to refer to the troops. No amount of spin makes this acceptable. It is condescending and offensive to troops. 'Young American Men and Women' - OK. 'Sons and Daughters of America' - OK. Kids - no. It's a trap I fight myself. It's not OK to use the 'age perspective' argument. You are saying that the 'kids' are not in your class just because you are older. That they are not adults like you. It is demeaning and rude.

Seems to me, that as far as politicians are concerned, this argument should be extended to high school students. At least the seniors and some juniors. What's a good way to piss off a high school student? Tell them they are not mature, not an adult. Just a kid. You'd think this was politics 101 stuff here. Show respect to the constituents (at least fake respect) and they'll vote for you. Piss them off and maybe they'll vote for the other guy, just out of spite.

Ahhh... this is why I usually stay away from political threads. Let's all go to sports and leisure and play some fantasy basketball (now that's a trollworthy, off topic, self promoting plug right there!).

oleteach

on Oct 09, 2004

Peace be to you. I understand your frustration. For me most people could be called "kids." but it would not be appropriate in very many places to do so.

You did a good job summarizing and putting the topic to rest. You sure got a lot of responses!

Dr Guy

on Oct 09, 2004

Everyone is missing the big picture.

Kerry thinks we are all kids in need of their daddy! So he stated that as a freudian slip. We are all kids who do not vote for him and more control of our lives! Only his enobled brethren know what is best of us!

We are just idiots in his mind.

Simple for the dumbest of us, eh?

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