Are military medals worth the medal they're made of?
Published on August 19, 2004 By Spc Nobody Special In Politics
In an election year, when the entire future of the U.S. military is called into question, presidential candidates have become terribly enbroiled over the issue of their own military records. Because of this, John Kerry, the democratic candidate for president, has proudly promoted his service record, claiming to serve honorably and win several medals, including three purple hearts.

However, ignoring the accusations by his fellow veterans, and the statement of a medical officer saying that one his wounds was self-inflicted, what if they were completely and utterly earned. All that that means is that Kerry has thrice won the "enemy marksmanship award," and that he's bad at ducking. I want to know about his other awards, and did he earn them?

Military medals have degenerated greatly since the days of the first purple hearts. To win a purple heart in it's heyday, was roughly equivalent to having a medal of honor. It meant something. Nowadays anyone can get it. A cousin of mine in the air force was standing next to a diplomatic compound, and recieved a small cut on the back of the hand when a nearby building was blown up. No further combat. Guess which medal he proudly wears? Perhaps I could get a medal for getting randomly hit by a bolt of lightning on duty.

In this day and age, medals are given out freely. In grenada, medals greatly outnumbered the forces who fought there. There was an average of almost 40 medals per defeated enemy soldier. This is not to say that there are not people who fight bravely, making sacrifices, that earn the right to wear a badge of courage, something that says "I did something," but how more shameful is it to those people, when the same medal is given to others, not for something extraordinary, but as a pat on the back for a job well done. When I recieve an award like that, it's like I'm at an Army Special Olympics....that's ok...everyone's a winner.

Medals deserve significance, I've seen battalion coins given for saving a life, at the same formation that someone got a medal for performing well at the army ball. What kind of message is that? You can get a Good Conduct Medal by staying out of jail more than once every three years, and in the 2nd Infantry Division, you have to have recieve an award before you're allowed to leave.

I hold that it's ridiculous to make such an issue over whether or not someone is good at being shot. Our country's medals, and the soldiers that earn them, deserve significance. And I will wear as few of mine as I can get away with, until I do something truly special that deserves one.


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on Aug 20, 2004
The fourth amendment protects people from illegal search and seizure. Before the Patriot Act, if a spook or the local police wanted to snoop, they had to go before a judge and offer evidence or good reason to do so. If the judge found this to be of merit, he could issue a warrant or a judges order authorizing those individuals to commit certain acts of surveillance (tapping your phone, searching your home, etc.). The individual also had to be notified. One might not find out till an agent came knocking at one's door, but the prudent rules stood. Now, all someone has to do is go before a judge and state that they are going to commit any acts they please for "information purposes" and the judge has to release an order within twelve hours. No judgement, his signature is now only a rubber stamp. Many people will say, "But I have nothing to fear, I'm an outstanding citizen, in fact, bring on a tax audit!" The problem within these unchecked powers is the issue of easy abuse and misuse. It does not take much imagination to see how easy it would be to frame someone or to utilize these powers for personal gain.

Also, there are several American citizens that are being held as "enemy combatants" and more than just Massoui. I would have to dig a little bit to get some of the more prominent names, but the fact that the government has now abled itself to not have to disclose anyone's names means that it can be hard to see just how many Americans are currently in detention. Have you ever heard of the infamous hacker, Kevin Mitnick? Before this law passed, he was held without trial for nearly four years. Now that he has finally been released (after his trial and a written book) he mentioned that had it not been for people knowing he was being held without trial he would probably have rotted there till the day he died.

This country of ours only works properly with transparency. To date, this has been the most secretive administration and has consolidated too much power for the federal government. I appreciate your being such a fine foil, though, Lee, it is good to have people debating and sharing ideas than slinging ad hominen attacks.
on Aug 20, 2004
I appreciate your being such a fine foil, though, Lee, it is good to have people debating and sharing ideas than slinging ad hominen attacks


Thanks Deference, I like debating you too. I enjoy hearing other people's Ideas even if I don't agree with them. I have to admit there has been one guy on this forum that I've been a little rude to after being insulted. He was unfortunately someone that I feel would never open his mind to any argument. There are always two sides to a coin.

After observing your post, I think I found something we may be in lock step with. I'm a Chinaphobe and I suspect you are one too. Maybe I should post something about China so we may be on the same side. Some of the international guys on this forum make my skin crawl about the subject.
on Aug 20, 2004
If Bush had gotten a purple heart in Vietnam, you guys would be wetting yourselves in every 60-second spot. But he didn't get a purple heart, did he? Say, where and when did Bush serve again...?

Bush put in 2 years of active duty to learn how to fly jets. With a 2% chance of dying in a jet crash accident during training, I'd say that Bush has guts. Give him credit where credit is due.

As for Kerry, give credit where credit is due. Yes, he volunteered for service and he fought in Vietnam; Yes, he received his medals approved by the Navy; and yes, he saved a mans life.

As for the Swift Boat Vets, give credit where credit is due: Yes, they are all honorably dischared; Yes, they deserve to be heard (just as Kerry is being heard...it's a free country) because they've earned it.

One one side, you've got a Politician braging on his record after he threw his medals over a wall; on the other side, you have many 'Swift Boat Vets' who feel betrayed by this "Politician" - so they are telling their side of the story.

If Kerry is 'free and clear' of the swift boat vets charges, then let him defend those charges. Let Kerry release his medical records....let Kerry answer each charge from his own lips. The 'Swift Boat Vets' deserved the right to be heard; since Kerry is running to be Commander-In-Chief and the leader of the people, then let him answer these charges to the people. If Kerry brings up his Military record so much during each political stop on his champaign, then he must answer the charges, but if doesn't answer the most basic charges, then I must be suspicious of his character and lean toward the "Swift Boat Vets."

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